Intense Results of Nirodha Samapatti

OMG Wow!

Nirodha samapatti did something to me. It will be interesting to see if it lasts, but, my God, this sit! I’ve never experienced a meditation like this—the vastness of the spaciousness, the profound loss of body and head and even contact with what is under me. It made me think that this is why it is said that people can levitate. I kid you not. Just wow.

Even more profound than all that, though, was awareness itself—how it was stable and enduring yet the slightest inclination from who knows where delivered it completely into another dimension of thought-vision stream. For example, awareness, the mind, can “face down” even in Nothingness, where there is no object to face down. It splits just to be itself!

In this profound, profound, profound peace I sunk immediately into upon sitting tonight—a peace that recalls the NS afterglow completely—I lost all resistance to the truth. The truth is I’m awakening. I’m letting go, or the process is letting go for me. This karmic energy stream that I now embody has been going at this for eons. This truth hit me in the gut, heart, and head. Tears streamed down. And I knew beyond doubt: This is the last life. I know this now. I know it. I will awaken. I will be free.

Almost immediately upon sitting, my body was gone, and my mind could soar out beyond measure, as space itself, or as awareness that now has lost most of its I-me-mine orientation. Boundless Consciousness is still almost too exhilarating, and I eventually contract off it to make sure Jenny is still there somewhere. Then out again, and so on.

In Nothingness (j7)—moments of splitting so I could be the One Who Faces Down the Nothing, and moments of actually being one Nothingness. Then flickering into NPNYNP (j8). Then I would go back to Boundless Consciousness or Boundless Space, alternating. I was not controlling which jhana. They were out of order and the slightest inclination became on its own the realm next beheld. It was a flickering light show of vision, transcendence, implosion, and then soaring.

Psychic Visions in Fourth Jhana

Earlier, and for most of the sit, the center of gravity was fourth jhana (j4), equanimity, although this was an utterly bodiless form of it and very much on the samatha side of it. Many mental visions arose. There was a strange one of a woman’s body in a grass skirt. She was slumped on a stone bench in a dark cool abode. Oddly, instead of a head she had a heart—a huge paper-valentine kind of heart. She was slumped, maybe sleeping. (Yeah, I know—whacked.)

All kinds of crazy visions arose behind closed eyes. I stared into a dakini’s lazer-white eye beams. I saw the close-up face of Jesus on the cross, and I was extremely moved and wept. I sent strong, stong metta and gratitude to DreamWalker. I sent gratitude and apologies to Daniel. And I heard him say back, “I know; all is well.” And then I thought I was seeing some past lives. There were beetles, a snake, a rodent, a small woman in 19th century dress with bushy brown hair and brown eyes. She was very, very clear. She played violin and was quiet and a bit tomboyish. There was a soldier from a Roman army. There was a human skeleton in a cave. I saw many different corpses.

I highly recommend that you all work on your samatha jhanas and attain nirodha samapatti. Daniel says it has insight value, does wonderful things to the mind whenever it can be reached, and, on exit, has been known to trigger arahatship. So this is no mere recreational pleasure. The jhanas are integral to awakening. Snap to it, haha!


I started this sit in late Dissolution, but it was so powerful that I’m puzzled as to stage-state notation. I’ll have to think about it. I could have made strong resolution tonight, but I didn’t. I sat with perfect acceptance, and the sense of agencylessness was as strong as it’s ever been. Okay—notation means that I was in Dissolution (late phase involves formless experiences), with the fifth jhanic aspect (spaciousness) of the fourth samatha jhana dominant.

Queen of Wands, Upright

Queen is the feminine aspect of the suit—creation and appreciation. Wands are associated with the fire element and magic. This is the card of friendship, loyalty, caring support, independence, passion, and love of the sensuous and pleasurable laughter in interactions. The queen is flanked by a dragon (Wisdom) and a lion (loyal friendship). The sunflower that crowns her symbolizes the ever-provident gift of the sun’s life energy.


“OMG Wow!”

Yes, wow =)

Generally “you” are not supposed to be there during meditation; states should be for themselves and I see that it is what is happening, which is good, very good. It shows progress into something that I can finally acknowledge as 3rd path (for what my opinion is worth). In those moments where you are jhana itself it actually already is nonduality. This is basically it. It seems nirodha opened you some chakras. crown chakra specifically.

It just has to be expanded to every single thing, every single object can feel like that, like its own world, own reality, contained in itself, part of you but not as just merely observed from afar but with OMG, WOW factor, all the time. Each touch can feel like for it that was only thing that ever existed, thus “from its own side.” You are experiencing now jhanas from their own side. Not as Jenny but as Jhana itself. If you can experience everything as what it is, in this fashion, then this is arhat-phala, the enlightenment. From there seeing you are God is quite straightforward. Even now you should be able to attain nirvikalpa samadhi as the meditative state.

It might seem strange that it is possible to be everything at once, but strangely it is possible. Each object is done in its own mind flash with only projectors that are related to its being active. This gives depth to everything, as if you are in jhana all day long. Seeing a wall is like meditating on it for hours, You feel it like it is part of yourself, not something you merely observe. So for pretty much most of the time when you do not check your body it is not there and can easily remain not there. Levitating? Not even it.  It is added sensation. Normally it is just an “on its own” kind of thing, although you can add levitation to the mix too if you want.

What else to say? Awesome development. You definitely have the triple-rooted relinking consciousness thing going on!

So when is the next path? Before MCTB2 comes out? What is ETA BTW?


Pawel, much of what you describe is what I mean by luminosity, the January shift.

ETA on Part II—it is hard to say. Daniel is under a ton of work pressure because 3 colleagues suddenly quit. I would like to finish Part II before I go on retreat July 24, but it will be a squeeze, and I’ve no idea what Daniel’s schedule is past the next 5 days of his shift work. We are past the really tough parts, though. The rest of this part is straightforward. Even so, we will be only a bit past the halfway mark when a year is up since we started. So it takes as long as it does, since he knows that this process is making it a much better book.

He has given me the option of writing a signed editor’s preface or intro. What would people what to read about in my intro that Daniel can’t or won’t say for himself?


“What would people what to read about in my intro that Daniel can’t or won’t say for himself?”

Your opinion on the importance of the book. You can write some good words.

Digiprove sealCopyright protected by Digiprove

Leave a Reply