Everything with a Capital E

DW

How ya feeling? I just climbed out of the Dark Night. . . . 

Jenny

Now that you are out of DN you are all set to contact Jim and Jamie! So yay!  I slept 12+ hours again and woke with a cough and a migraine. Migraine is now gone, thank God, coffee, Advil, and gabapentin. I’m working on editing revisions that I prompted Daniel to make—additions and clarifications. Eric is going to dial in Tuesday, too, although prolly for a short time since he has to go to work.

DW

Did that immediately yesterday.  Jim might . . . will check messages for Jamie.

Jenny

Oh, good on ya. I asked Daniel some bold questions about your list, our list. He said you were hilarious and that he vipassanized “Everything,” with a capital E (he knows capitals irritate me). So now I’m going to be writing him a letter. Wish me luck that I don’t start another fight. Telling us to get to fourth by “vipassanizing Everything” is unhelpful. I guess he doesn’t know or remember what he actually did to get fourth path.

If I were you, I would post that list stuff in the Underground; then Steph and I can comment, and Daniel can read in preparation for eventual Skype with him.

I will be sure to be bowing and scraping as I write him. Dammit.

I think I can list the Derived Material Qualities, the core processes, the chakras, and ask him to answer yes/no were these part of the 5% he had left to dissolve.

DW

Might jog his memory.

Jenny

I mean, is he saying that he tried to include all of experience in every single sit? Such that it was one piece of fabric? Fluxing? Is that the end practice?

DW  

Yep. Mahamudra.

Jenny 

Ah. But he went back to Mahasi et al. at the very end, in India.

DW 

Everything . . . resting on awareness resting on everything.

Jenny

But meantime, isn’t it helpful to focus on what we think may be selfing in us?

DW

I personally think so. Until it isn’t.  No one agrees with me, though . . . so there’s that.

Jenny

Well, I guess that I have my questions for him then. Hey, can I use parts of this dialog in my letter to him? 

DW

Ya wanna drag me in? heh heh. . . .

Jenny

Yeah, I do. Because I’m always the one falling on the sword, and I think he needs to know that the Third Path Club is united in wondering, including Steph, I believe. I don’t mean to push him up against some wall, but he isn’t clear in just pointing to Everything. If you say it is 5% that is the problem, then that is not Everything; it is 5%.

DW

Sure . . . . sounds good.

Jenny

Really, I’m going to tell him he can talk with us about his answers in one of our Hangouts. In my experience with him, he is much more willing to answer follow-up questions and be pressed for details on Skype than in email.

He prides himself on being “one of the few meditation teachers who will answer almost any question.”

Then third-to-fourth becomes completely unteachable?

Maybe you should come on this Mahamudra retreat with me. Got $900 lying around? The teacher stays in contact afterward, as a “teacher.” A relationship, which is real Mahamudra.

 

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